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This workshop is part of the Graphic Lab, a project aimed at picture retouching to improve the graphical content of the Wikimedia projects. More information about the lab can be found on its main page and requests pages (Illustrations ; Photographs ; Maps ; Video and Sound). To ask questions or make a suggestions, see the talk page of the graphic lab page.

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• Wikipedia:Illustration workshop
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Sledge flags used by Robert Falcon Scott

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   Done
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   Done
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   Done

Article(s): Robert Falcon Scott, List of Antarctic flags, Exeter Cathedral, Job 39

Request

If possible, could somebody please create SVG files for the three sledge flags used by Captain Scott throughout both the Discovery Expedition (1901–1904) and Terra Nova Expedition (1910–1913) in Antarctica, including:

1) His sledge flag during the Discovery Expedition, based on this PNG version here.

2) His primary sledge flag during the Terra Nova Expedition, as seen here (very similar to the Discovery version, but still with many noticeable differences).

3) His second sledge flag during the Terra Nova Expedition, as seen and described (if you click on the picture's caption) here.

Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 15:02, 1 May 2025 (UTC) Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 00:03, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s)

 Done. hstoops (talk) 12:25, 10 August 2025 (UTC)

@Hstoops: Brilliant work, thank you very much! Just a few minor things before I close this request; I believe the red motto on the "Discovery" sledge flag should have a full stop at the end. Also, regarding the second sledge flag from the "Terra Nova" expedition, I believe there should be a single blue quotation mark (') on either side of the motto, and that the "w" in "wings" should actually be a small letter, not a capital one. Any chance those could be remedied? Sorry for the hassle, and thanks again for your help. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 12:42, 15 August 2025 (UTC)

Vectorize The Late Late Show with James Corden Logo

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• File:Late Late Show With James Corden Logo.svg

Article(s): en:The Late Late Show with James Corden

Request

Hi! Please vectorize this raster logo file. Thank you!

Graphist opinion(s)

Vectorize Today with Hoda & Jenna logo

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  PNG version of the logo
• SVG version of the logo
  SVG version of the logo

Article(s): en:Today with Jenna & Friends

Request

Hi! Please vectorize this raster logo file. Thank you!

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Vectorize Good Morning America 2002 logo

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• File:Good Morning America logo 2002.svg

Article(s): en: Good Morning America

Request

Hi! Please vectorize this raster logo file. Thank you!

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Request for Vectorization of Historic Coat of Arms: House of Esparza

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  Coat of arms of Lope Ruiz de Esparza

Article(s): en:Lope Ruiz de Esparza

Request

I would like to request a high-quality SVG vectorization of the historic coat of arms of the House of Esparza, based on heraldic records from Spanish nobility registries.

The current depiction on Commons (if it exists) is either outdated, low-resolution, or lacking heraldic detail. I have provided the original arms description for the blazon below.

Blazon (heraldic description): Or, a wolf statant sable at the foot of an oak tree vert.

1. Field (Escutcheon Background):
   • Tincture: Or (gold).
   • Rendered in a rich, traditional heraldic gold. It should have texture and depth
2. Charge 1 – The Wolf:
   • Attitude: Statant (standing on all four legs, facing dexter [heraldic right]).
   • Tincture: Sable (black).
   • The wolf should be stylized but naturalistic
3. Charge 2 – The Oak Tree:
   • Position: Centered above the wolf, rooted to the ground line.
   • Tincture: Vert (green).
   • Trunk may be in brown (proper), unless a purer heraldic green is preferred.
   • The tree must be recognizably an oak: sturdy trunk, wide canopy, and visible roots or base flare.
4. Ground or Support (if included):
   • A thin base line (compartment) in natural earth tones may be added to ground the wolf and the oak if the style allows. Otherwise, the charges may float within the field, as is traditional in Iberian arms.

Style Requested: Please follow the style typically used in the coat of arms of the Kingdom of Spain, or the standard heraldic style used in official Spanish armorials.

This redesign is for encyclopedic and historical purposes, and I hope it may benefit Wikipedia articles on related noble families or municipalities. --Euhistoryprofessor (talk) 14:01, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s)

I've made an attempt at implementing your request. I'm happy to tweak the colors or use different renderings of the charges if you have suggestions. I decided to make the trunk green for better contrast with the wolf and to more clearly match the blazon and Escudo de Ruiz de Esparza.png, at least for my first draft. I'm not sure what you think of as a 'rich, traditional heraldic gold' – does a warm yellow do the trick, or do you need a metallic gradient? —Ilzolende (talk) 21:30, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

Color change

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  Calligraphy of Aisha
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  Calligraphy of Khadija

Article(s): Aisha

Request

Hi, everyone! Could someone please change the color of the Arabic calligraphy image of Aisha to that of the color used in the image of Khadijah? Also, please have the shades of green and white be identical. Much appreciated! Snowstormfigorion (talk) 18:32, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s)

@Snowstormfigorion, a svg version of the calligraphy already exists, File:Aisha.svg. Do you need to make the change there? Kaim (talk) 06:03, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

Vectorize Bank Jakarta logo

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  PNG version of Bank Jakarta logo
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  SVG version of the same logo
• Non-slogan SVG version
  Non-slogan SVG version

Article(s): id:Bank Jakarta

Request

Hi, Everyone, such as Mrmw. Could someone please vectorize the PNG version of new Bank Jakarta logo, and if necessary create non-slogan version of that logo. Here's the source from its official Instagram account --Yayan550 (talk) 20:08, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s)

@Yayan550: Seems completed. J. Dann (talk) 09:38, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

Royal Badge of Wales and COA of UK in Scotland Black and White Versions

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  Royal Badge of Wales B&W
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  Badge of Wales 2008-2024
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  Badge of Wales 2024-Present
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  Royal Coat of Arms of the United Kingdom (Scotland) B&W
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  COA of UK in Scotland

Article(s): Wales on Acts on s:Portal:Measures of the National Assembly for Wales, s:Portal:Acts of the National Assembly for Wales, and s:Portal:Acts of Senedd Cymru as well as their Welsh Wikisource versions

Scotland on Acts on s:Portal:Acts of the Scottish Parliament and en:Act of the Scottish Parliament

Request

Would someone be willing to convert the PNG black and white royal badge and coat of arms to SVG versions? Their full color SVG versions are linked. The Welsh badge will need one each with the different crowns. The Scottish full color SVG is not exactly the same as the black and white one which appears on acts, some elements and spacing are different, but a black and white version of the color SVG would be perfectly acceptable! --Penguin1737 (talk) 01:02, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

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Vectorize After Midnight Logo

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  PNG Description of first image
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  SVG Description of second image

Article(s):

Request

Hi! Please vectorize this raster logo file. Thank you! --2601:8C:4182:9AB0:38B4:7B37:6D3A:2A09 00:35, 3 July 2025 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s)

Earlier notes.Trial filter at Test.svg. Glrx (talk) 14:37, 3 July 2025 (UTC)

Vectorize Watch What Happens Live Logo (2017)

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  PNG Description of first image
• SVG Description of second image
  SVG Description of second image

Article(s): en: Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen

Request

Hi! Please vectorize this raster logo file. Thank you! --2601:8C:4182:9AB0:C810:41DB:2EED:7A5E 17:16, 3 July 2025 (UTC)

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Vectorize NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt (2016) - with Full-Color Rainbow Peacock logo

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  PNG Description of first image
• SVG Description of second image
  SVG Description of second image

Article(s): en:NBC Nightly News

Request

Hi! Please vectorize this raster logo file. Thank you! --2601:8C:4182:9AB0:C810:41DB:2EED:7A5E 17:22, 3 July 2025 (UTC)

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Vectorize NTT Group's 8 major companies logo

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  PNG version
• SVG version
  SVG version

Article(s): ja:NTTグループ and ja:日本電信電話

Request

Could someone please vectorize the logo into SVG version. It can be done using already existing SVG images at Category:NTT Group logos, Category:NTT DoCoMo logos, and Category:NTT logos. Source from https://group.ntt/jp/newsrelease/2025/05/09/pdf/250509ab.pdf --Yayan550 (talk) 08:28, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

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Seal of the Director, Marine Corps Staff

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  Seal of the Director, Marine Corps Staff

Article(s): en:Director of the Marine Corps Staff, en:List of active duty United States three-star officers

Request

SVG version of this U.S. Marine Corps seal. SuperWIKI (talk) 15:43, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

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SVG Wales Coat of Arms

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  PNG Royal Badge of Wales

Request

Could someone create an SVG version of the above coat of arms for wales? I would also like for the space inside the coat of arms to be filled in.

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SVG Bali Coat of Arms, Flag and Regional House of Representatives DPRD

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  Coat of arms of Bali
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  Flag of Bali
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  Logo of the Bali Regional House of Representatives (DPRD)

Request

Change to SVG version of the above offcial seal (coat of arms) for Bali. Edit: + flag and Regional House of Representatives (DPRD) logo

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Great Mandala (大曼荼羅) of Nichiren Buddhism

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  Gohonzon of Nichiren

Article(s): Already in use

Request

I added a title element to all the links that gives the Japanese reading and Sanskrit name to make it easier for readers. But because many of names are positioned with text spacing, it means that the links do not have independent title elements. I want all of the clickable text links to be independent objects in the svg so their titles show up properly --Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 11:50, 13 July 2025 (UTC)

I have since found a workaround with the title display stuff. But the fact that whitespace is so important for determining where things are in the image needs to be fixed Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 07:27, 14 July 2025 (UTC)

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Vectorise press release template

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  PDF version

Article(s): w:en:Press release

Request

I request that this press release example be vectorise. The text may be made bigger and its font be replaced with something more legible as it is extrutiatingly hard to read. the colours may also be updated for the same reason. --Juwan (talk) 13:53, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

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Cambridgeshire barnstar

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  File to be overwritten.
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  Actual county flag of Cambridgeshire.

Article(s): Any pages this barnstar could potentially be used on.

Request

Could somebody please modify the above barnstar to replace the flag of Cambridgeshire County Council with the actual county flag of Cambridgeshire, also provided above? Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 14:44, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s)

This should not be done. The red and gold version is the correct banner of Cambridgeshire County Council (and is flown as a flag at its headquarters). That area covers two historic counties - Cambridgeshire and Huntingdonshire, and the ceremonial county ropes in Peterborough too). The two counties have their own flags, designated specifically as for the historic counties.

If the barnstar is intended to indicate work in connection with the local government area or the ceremonial county, the red and gold version is correct. The blue and gold flag would be appropriate for a connection to the historic county: see its entry on the UK Flags Register. Hogweard (talk) 06:38, 23 July 2025 (UTC)

Vectorization of CoA of Táchira (1878)

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  JPG
• SVG versión
  SVG versión

Article(s):en:Tachira and many Wikipedia’s

Request

Please make a new svg format for a CoA of Tachira (1878) (google translator) AbchyZa22 16:34, 25 July 2025 (UTC)

Licensing

{{Insignia}},{{PD-Venezuela-old}},{{PD-1996}}

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US House of Representatives

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  What I tried to update: A pictorial representation of the House, including four current vacancies

Article(s): en:United States House of Representatives and related articles

Request

I am trying to change File:(119th) US House of Representatives.svg to reflect an extra vacancy. However, I cannot seem to be successful in doing so, even after using the proper tool. However, this (which only reflects three vacancies) is showing up still on the page Joesom333 (talk) 20:56, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s)

Shows 4 vacancies for me at the File page and the en.wiki page. Probably old image is being pulled from the browser's cache. Glrx (talk) 22:06, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

I also get 4 vacancies. See Bypass your cache for instructions to avoid problem. — RCraig09 (talk) 22:23, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

I had to clear my history and reload several times, but I see the updated file now. Now, however, I believe the number 436 is wrong; it should read 435. Joesom333 (talk) 14:14, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

Yes, the House has 435 voting members. Glrx (talk) 15:42, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

@Glrx: I think the current number of voting members is actually 431: 219+212=431 Joesom333 (talk) 17:29, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

There are 435 voting seats in the House. There are a few non-voting seats. The number should reflect the number of seats shown: 219 + 212 + 4 = 435. Glrx (talk) 18:27, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

That makes sense. Joesom333 (talk) 18:43, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

I changed the number to 435 while I figure out the tool.

Balance was 220 R to 213 D with 2 vacant due to deaths of Raúl Grijalva (Ariz.) and Sylvester Turner.

vacancies: https://clerk.house.gov/Members/ViewVacancies

• Mark E Green (Mark Green (Q16224587)) Republican Party resigned 20 July 2025 TN 7th (Tennessee's 7th congressional district (Q7699995)
• Gerald E. Connolly (Gerry Connolly (Q1514859)) Democratic Party died 21 May 2025 VA 11th (Virginia's 11th congressional district (Q7934028)
• Raúl Grijalva (Raúl Grijalva (Q946606)) Democratic Party, Raza Unida Party died 13 March 2025 AZ 7th (Arizona's 7th congressional district (Q4791218))
• Sylvester Turner (Sylvester Turner (Q16751186) Democratic Party died 5 Marh 2025 TX 18th (Texas's 18th congressional district (Q7707364))

Looks like 219 R to 212 D with 4 vacant.

Glrx (talk) 15:56, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

George Kinnear House

Article(s): Category:George Kinnear House

Request

There are three illustrations of the house (a sketch and two floor plans) at [1], pages 26 and 27 of the book. I assume there is a clean way to extract them, but I don't know how offhand. --Jmabel ! talk 16:17, 29 July 2025 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s)

Jmabel Are you sure you are allowed to do that, have you checked Terms of Service there, it's not just straight forward. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 16:04, 12 August 2025 (UTC)

@Goran tek-en: Google can say whatever they like, but it is out of copyright. - Jmabel ! talk 16:43, 12 August 2025 (UTC)

Presumably most of the terms in their TOU can only meaningfully apply to the copyrighted content on the site. - Jmabel ! talk 16:47, 12 August 2025 (UTC)

Fix broken Hwatu SVG image set

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  Missing pines and paper slip
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  Missing paper slip
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  Missing paper slip
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  Missing paper slip
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  Missing paper slip
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  Missing paper slip
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  Missing paper slip
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  Seems fine
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  Missing paper slip
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  Missing paper slip
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  Seems fine
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  Missing paper slip
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  Seems fine
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  Seems fine

Article(s): ko:민화화투

Request

These vector images of Korean playing cards have missing elements. When I open the file in Inkscape the paths are there and fully visible, but they are not visible when opening the file in Google Chrome, nor in the automatically generated PNGs in Commons. I have no idea what is causing this or how to fix it. Several of these files also have a bunch of unused paths from other images in the image set, which may be worth deleting to clean up the files. --Spenĉjo (talk) 12:23, 30 July 2025 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s)

I checked the first two, and they have the Inkscape bug that uses a forbidden g element inside a clipPath element.

• Validation shows 32 errors

Glrx (talk) 18:07, 30 July 2025 (UTC)

Vectorize The Late Show Colbert Logo

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• File:Ask This Old House logo.svg

Article(s): en:Ask This Old House

Request

Hi! Please vectorize this raster logo file. Thank you!

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Vectorize CBS Evening News 2009 logo

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  PNG Description of first image
• SVG Description of second image
  SVG Description of second image

Article(s): en:CBS Evening News

Request

Hi! Please vectorize this raster logo file. Thank you! --ChesterFan6384 (talk) 09:06, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

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Wikipe-tan on haystack

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  change the logo below

Article(s): [[]]

Request

Can you change the logo below to the current one? --Ahri Boy (talk) 04:08, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

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Filling in the Coat of Arms

This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. Kaim (talk) 10:58, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

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  Malaysian coat of arms
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  On a white background
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  Black on white

Request

Can someone please fill in this coat of arms image so that it is visible on dark mode? See s:Emergency (Essential Powers) Act 1979 on dark mode for example of problem.ToxicPea (talk) 13:29, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s)

@ToxicPea:  Done cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 23:46, 10 August 2025 (UTC)

@Cmglee: I just want the inside filled in. I don't want a the image on a background. ToxicPea (talk) 23:59, 10 August 2025 (UTC)

There is a similar image at File:Coat of arms of the United Kingdom (black and white).svg for the UK coat of arms which is similar to what I'm looking for. ToxicPea (talk) 00:01, 11 August 2025 (UTC)

I tried using the Fill bounded areas tool in Inkscape but it doesn't track the outlines well, leaving some ghosting. I'll thus leave the task for someone else to pick up. cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 00:19, 11 August 2025 (UTC)

@ToxicPea:  Done -- Kaim (talk) 10:11, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

Vectorize Kemenpora logo

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  PNG version
• SVG version
  SVG version
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  PNG symbol version
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  SVG, may be helpful

Article(s): en:Ministry of Youth and Sports (Indonesia)

Request

Could someone please vectorize the new Indonesian Ministry of Youth and Sports (Kemenpora) logo and its symbol, which was revealed in April this year. Thank you for the attention. --Yayan550 (talk) 08:34, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

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Vectorize raster logo files

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  Raster logo file #1
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  Raster logo file #2
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  SVG #2 [OK]
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  Raster logo file #3
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  SVG #3 [OK]

Article(s): Various

Request

Hi! Please vectorize these raster logo files. Thank you! --OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 10:00, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s)

@OrdinaryScarlett: 2/3  Half done --Mrmw (talk) 04:50, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

User:Kehaa - Moved - wrong venue

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Article(s): [[]]

Request

Request copied from wrong venue at User talk:Rillke/SVGedit.js: Hi dear, please create SVG file for this flag. Thank you! @Kehaa: (talk) 11:04, 3 August 2025 (UTC) --Waddie96 (talk) 01:07, 12 August 2025 (UTC)

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Vectorize Korea's 80th anniversary logo

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  PNG version of Liberation Day of Korea 80th anniversary
• SVG version
  SVG version

Article(s): en:National Liberation Day of Korea

Request

Can someone please vectorize the logo of 80th anniversary of Liberation Day of Korea. Best regards, thank you. --Yayan550 (talk) 23:53, 13 August 2025 (UTC)

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Design of Lawrence Oates' sledge flag

• File:Design of Lawrence Oates' sledge flag.svg

Article(s): Lawrence Oates, Scott of the Antarctic (film)

Request

Could somebody please create an SVG file of the sledging flag which was designed for Lawrence Oates prior to the Terra Nova Expedition but without actually ever being manufactured for him to use during said expedition (hence the need for "Design of" in the file name), as seen and described in detail (in the "Full description" section) here? Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 14:20, 16 August 2025 (UTC)

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Vectorize RRI's 80th anniversary logo

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  PNG version
• SVG version
  SVG version
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  PNG vertical version
• SVG vertical version
  SVG vertical version

Article(s): en:Radio Republik Indonesia, id:Daftar hari penting di Indonesia

Request

Can someone please vectorize the logo of 80th anniversary of Radio Republik Indonesia (RRI). I found this logo at https://ppid.rri.go.id/download/dokumen/Pedoman+HUT+RRI+80.pdf/458555, which isn't in pure SVG.

UPDATE (19 August 2025): The request also include vertical version as well. --Yayan550 (talk) 15:08, 16 August 2025 (UTC)

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Pennant of Dayton, Ohio

This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 13:28, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

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Article(s): Flag of Dayton, Ohio

Request

Can someone please create an SVG file of the official pennant which was adopted by the city of Dayton in 1917, as seen here? In case it's not clear, the two side bars are intended to be "deep orange", while the city name is supposed to be "navy blue". Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 01:23, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s)

 Done -- Kaim (talk) 10:58, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

@Kaim Amin: Great job, thank you! Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 13:28, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

Permanent teeth names need fixing

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  the technical names of adult human teeth with incisors and canines swapped
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  similar image for deciduous teeth
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  SVG [OK]
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  SVG [OK]
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  raster
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  SVG [OK]

Article(s): None at the moment

Request

For five years now, the names of the lower canines and laterals in File:Permanent teeth names.png have been reversed. Which is unfortunate, because it and File:Deciduous teeth names.png would make such a great pair if both were correct. It should be a relatively trivial matter to switch them, but no one has done so. (I could try, but I have no particular expertise in image editing, so it would take a while and probably not give great results.) Note that this really should be an SVG, but the author no longer has the original file (see the talk page), so we are stuck with this PNG. I believe it's better to have a correct PNG than an incorrect anything, so could someone please upload a corrected version where the labels "Mandibular Right Canine" and "Mandibular Right Lateral Incisor" are switched, and the labels "Mandibular Left Canine" and "Mandibular Left Lateral Incisor" are also switched? I don't know what the policy is about keeping vs. changing filenames on images when they change substantively like this. FWIW, the image is not in use on any Wikimedia project, presumably because of the labeling error, and probably is not in use on very many other wikis (i.e., through InstantCommons) for the same reason, so maybe it doesn't matter if we just upload the new, correct image over the old? - dcljr (talk) 09:34, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

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If it's not in use, I'd suggest redrawing it, perhaps using File:Illu_mouth.svg as a base. The current text is too small in the thumbnail and is at awkward angles. If someone can find an equivalent SVG for deciduous teeth, I'll be happy to remake them. cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 03:04, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

P.S. Alternatively, I could crop out the non-text parts of the PNGs and embed them in an SVG. Not ideal, but at least we have the existing graphic but with editable text. cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 03:09, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

@Cmglee: I have vectorized the raster image of the deciduous dentition as a multilingual graphic (DE + EN).

Would you like to do the same for the graphic of the permanent dentition?

Are you familiar with multilingual/switch in SVG?

Thank you very much. Yes, please, if it's not too much hassle.

I'm indeed familiar with multilingual SVG (I made template:svg lang many years ago, actually.) Cheers, cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 13:18, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

@Cmglee: I’m not sure if we understood each other correctly – in any case, I’ve already started with the adult dentition  Request taken by Mrmw (talk) 13:29, 22 August 2025 (UTC) --Mrmw (talk) 13:29, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

Great, thanks. Would you mind if I shift the text down slightly so that they are horizontally aligned with the leader lines (instead of the leader line being under each label)? cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 15:16, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

@Cmglee and Dcljr: please keep layout at it is, thx  Done

Thanks! But there's an awful lot of blank space on the sides of both of the new images. Could that be reduced, please? - dcljr (talk) 17:01, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

Oh, wait. That's because of the multiple languages, right? The current German text is longer than the English. - dcljr (talk) 17:19, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

@Cmglee and Dcljr: correct, layout is optimized for multilingual translations, please keep it as it is, thx

it would be possible to use linebrakes, but then the image would be very high --Mrmw (talk) 17:32, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

@Cmglee and Dcljr: i also did another vectorisation for comparision both of teeth - its from de-wiki - perhaps somebody is interested in --Mrmw (talk) 20:29, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

Ok, I'll leave you and other editors to update it as you see fit. cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 21:21, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

@Cmglee and Glrx: @Glrx How do you evaluate this?

My perspective:

Multilingual SVGs offer many advantages and benefits.

However, they require a special layout, especially for the text portions, where space must be reserved for potentially longer translations.

As a result, this sometimes leads to larger white spaces at the edges.

For me, this is acceptable to a certain extent—if such a graphic is, for example, reused privately, the user can later crop the rendered raster image in their language as needed. --Mrmw (talk) 05:23, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

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The switch tag allows total control of the elements to be swapped in and out, not just the text content, so different languages can have different font sizes, multiple lines etc.

However, the SVG Translate Tool allows only text content to be changed.

If either the tool can be changed (advanced mode?) or the SVG tagged for only manual updates, we can have just the right amount of whitespace.

Alternatively, does anyone know whether SVG can automatically scale text to fit a given area like in MS PowerPoint? I don't think it's possible, but who knows!

Cheers, cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 06:56, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

Yes, multilingual SVG has both benefits and problems.

I'm happy with the permanent teeth image. I would have made the mouth and teeth bigger, but that is my preference.

Translations are problematic and do need extra space. Spanish typically needs about 30 percent more space than English. Commercial translations of English instruction manuals to Spanish often trim some of the text so it will fit the space. Chinese is much more compact.

• en: permanent teeth (Q1094885)
• es: dentición permanente (Q1094885)
• fr: dent permanente (Q1094885)
• zh: 恆齒​（Q1094885）

The intent of switch translations on Commons is to enable easy translation for images that would be used on many wikis. That means extra space is needed. The value of the translations is often worth the cost of the wasted space.

If the extra space on the image is an issue, just make a separate file. Hacking the multilingual SVG may make that SVG more confusing.

The typical situation is graphic artists draw the original image, and then translators add or modify the text. The graphic artists are not expected to know a lot of languages, and the translators are not skilled graphic artists — they only modify the text. Mrmw's permanent teeth image could easily be used on dozens of wikis and desire dozens of translations. Many of those wanting to add translations will not have graphic or XML skills. A Chinese high school student would probably prefer to see Chinese text rather than some Latin or Cyrillic script.

SVG has never had good typesetting capabilities (and I'm ignoring the textbox issue). Typical editors will typeset spaces beyond the margin, but SVG does not. SVG graphics state does not compose (e.g., e^x2). Symbols with both subscripts and superscripts are problematic. SVG is really an output format rather than an exchange format.

Although switch elements may have arbitrary content, such files are difficult to maintain. SVG Translate requires that switch elements contain only text elements with an equal number of tspan elements. That is not ideal, but it covers many situations.

In addition, most graphic editors cannot edit SVG with switch elements. Inkscape can, but it requires specialized knowledge of what is going on behind the scenes. Ordinary Inkscape users may accidently add graphic elements inside of switch elements rather than outside. I doubt Corel Draw and Illustrator will maintain switch translations.

The WMF multilingual approach has issues. A better solution would allow any graphics editor to improve the images without losing the translations.

I've done font switches with classes, lang, and CSS.

Everything has weaknesses.

Glrx (talk) 15:58, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

Good points, Glrx, especially re SVG editors (software).

It seems there's no way to automatically scale text without JavaScript – see http://codepen.io/scottcarver/pen/yYyxyZ but I've a workaround which might be overkill:

Each label has several tspans in different font sizes at the same location. The editor fills in the one most appropriate for their language and leaves the others blank. Thus only the one correctly sized shows.

To support English, Spanish (if it's agreed to be the most verbose language) and Chinese (if most compact), perhaps three sizes should do? cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 22:01, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

@Cmglee: Did I understand that correctly: different font sizes in one file just because of the different text lengths in the different languages? So Spanish would always tend to get a smaller, less legible font size? That doesn’t seem reasonable to me. --Mrmw (talk) 04:11, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

While inefficient storage-wise, I don't think it's unreasonable. A smaller font is preferable to truncation or overlapping other elements.

Conversely, if one planned for, say, Spanish to be legibly sized, English and Chinese can be larger and be even more legible.

Regardless, I was trying to brainstorm solutions which let translators edit only textual content and are supported by SVG without JavaScript. cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 07:22, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

I'm OK with brainstorming, but I'm also a big fan of simplicity. Many knowledgeable SVG contributors have come up with translation schemes that work for them but end up surprising or confusing rank and file SVG contributors. Multiple tspan elements would probably confuse rank and file contributors. Leaving extra space may annoy some users' esthetics, but it will not confuse them.

For a multilingual SVG file that has Chinese, Japanese, and Korean, I may add some obscure CSS that selects different fonts for select langtags. I know that can confuse some contributors, but most of the time it will do the right thing. IIRC, I've also made Chinese characters larger than Latin characters with CSS. Such a change follows the notion that the SVG should contain the content while CSS controls the presentation. I've also done CSS hacks to make right-to-left languages such as Arabic work correctly. I'm aware that all those edits are tricks that may be difficult to follow.

Glrx (talk) 20:08, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

Sounds good. Does the SVG translate tool maintain the tspan's class? How can a translator who adds a new language select the appropriate class? cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 20:26, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

The CSS does not use class selectors but rather attribute selectors.

text[systemLanguage="zh" i] {font-family: ...;}
text[systemLanguage="ko" i] {font-family: ...;}
text[systemLanguage="ja" i] {font-family: ...;}

Adding a new language that uses a special font requires editing the style element once.

The SVG designers should NEVER have used comma-separated values in the systemLanguage attribute. There's no comma-separated list processor for CSS, but SVG Translate only puts one langtag in a systemLanguage attribute.

The approach has limitations because most CSS does not detect inherited attributes (lang is an exception).

Glrx (talk) 22:28, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

That's brilliant. It works well! I'll try that in the future. cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 09:50, 25 August 2025 (UTC)

New version of vector logo file

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Hi! Could an alternate version with the full logo (including the name "METROLINX" on the right side) be created? Thank you! --OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 07:08, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

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@OrdinaryScarlett:  Done --Mrmw (talk) 15:03, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

Thank you so much! OrdinaryScarlett OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 15:17, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

Flag of Piriápolis

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Could someone please create an SVG file of the recently adopted city flag of Piriápolis, Uruguay, as seen and described here? Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 01:13, 25 August 2025 (UTC)

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Vectorize NET 1969 Identity Logo

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Hi! Please vectorize this raster logo file. Thank you! --RickFan3800 (talk) 01:56, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

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Vectorize NET 1968 Identity Logo

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Hi! Please vectorize this raster logo file. Thank you! --RickFan3800 (talk) 01:59, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

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